(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by No Name Go Server] CoPyright[ This game was played on the No Name Go Server Permission to reproduce this game is given.] GN[Dongzi-Dongzi(B) NNGS] EV[None] RE[W+Resign] PW[Dongzi]WR[6k*] PB[Dongzi]BR[6k*] PC[NNGS New York USA: ra.york.cuny.edu 9696] DT[1996-08-28] SZ[19]TM[60]KM[5.5] ;B[pd];W[dp];B[pq];W[dd];B[qk]C[ Dongzi 6k*: : ) Dongzi 6k*: so far so good. rimas 9k*: no problem up to now :) ] ;W[nc];B[pf];W[jd];B[fq];W[dn];B[jp];W[po];B[qo];W[qn];B[qp];W[ol]C[ Dongzi 6k*: chinese opening. :) rimas 9k*: I c :) Dongzi 6k*: there are many possibilities. rimas 9k*: would have played o4 instead of r5 rimas 9k*: and now p5 immediately Dongzi 6k*: sabaki Dongzi 6k*: : ) Dongzi 6k*: where is the big points? rimas 9k*: judging by the game somewhere in upper left rimas 9k*: but left side invasion around d10 looks good too Dongzi 6k*: no need to defend either the upper right or lower right and bottome because w can't invade. Dongzi 6k*: so the absolute next move is to reduce w moyo Dongzi 6k*: d10 is not enough. ] ;B[cf];W[ch];B[cc];W[dc];B[cd];W[de];B[bf];W[df];B[lc];W[oe];B[pe];W[ld] ;B[kd];W[kc];B[ke];W[jc]C[ Dongzi 6k*: why? rimas 9k*: I don't like k17 tho Dongzi 6k*: why not? Dongzi 6k*: it is a very natural and good move. rimas 9k*: it looks like building territory between two walls Dongzi 6k*: one, it works well with d17 Dongzi 6k*: two, m16 is a shinning cutting stone, it cann't be killed in ladder. rimas 9k*: ok, go on Dongzi 6k*: so w will have l15 group to chase around with,and that's what happened n the game. Dongzi 6k*: when u said it looks like building territory between two walls... Dongzi 6k*: remember, with thickness... Dongzi 6k*: enclose a 5-spaced territory is ideal Dongzi 6k*: don't give that kind of chance up. :) rimas 9k*: hmm ] ;B[md];W[le];B[me];W[lf];B[mc]C[ Dongzi 6k*: what's w 's next move? rimas 9k*: I don't remember Dongzi 6k*: i.e. should w kill b l15 group rimas 9k*: but I would now k14 Dongzi 6k*: kill it is easy Dongzi 6k*: but u really waste the thickness. Dongzi 6k*: kill it is small rimas 9k*: then play elsewhere rimas 9k*: e.g. using sabaki in lower right Dongzi 6k*: this group only has white thickness to run into. ] ;W[mf];B[od];W[cg]C[ rimas 9k*: nice for white rimas 9k*: ? Dongzi 6k*: k13 would have killed too Dongzi 6k*: and as I said before it was small. Dongzi 6k*: now actually the sabaki is stengthened becasue to the n14 forcing move. Dongzi 6k*: white give b a chance to run rimas 9k*: why c13? ] ;B[je];W[jg];B[ie];W[hc]C[ Dongzi 6k*: now this p15 protects the cutting point at o16 Dongzi 6k*: this is the weakness of this white shape. Dongzi 6k*: I am not saying that black will do it immediately Dongzi 6k*: but it is a concern rimas 9k*: I c Dongzi 6k*: and it is a good move to strengthen left side position. Dongzi 6k*: taking profit in attaching Dongzi 6k*: attcking I meant. ] ;B[hd];W[gc];B[hg]C[ Dongzi 6k*: next move? rimas 9k*: I don't understand why black played this Dongzi 6k*: which move? rimas 9k*: how can b expect to save this k15 group? Dongzi 6k*: the reason is white m14 group is not safe either. Dongzi 6k*: one doesn't mind travelling when one has companion. :) rimas 9k*: : ) Dongzi 6k*: the next move, w want to take profit in sente. ] ;W[cb];B[bb];W[db]C[ Dongzi 6k*: note w b19 kills if black tennuki Dongzi 6k*: that's what white had in mind, but... ] ;B[jh];W[kh];B[kg];W[ji];B[lh];W[ih];B[kf]C[ Dongzi 6k*: now white has a choice... Dongzi 6k*: kill black by b19 or save m14 by q10 ] ;W[pj];B[ba]C[ Dongzi 6k*: nobody will like this. :) ] ;W[ng]C[ Dongzi 6k*: what is the purpose of o13? rimas 9k*: connect rimas 9k*: and black n15 group somehow in danger I think Dongzi 6k*: connect and disconnect Dongzi 6k*: dual purpose move Dongzi 6k*: white cant' cut at m13 ] ;B[kb];W[jb]C[ Dongzi 6k*: sente yose ] ;B[lg]C[ Dongzi 6k*: after o13, cut at m13 is possible. ] ;W[oh];B[lj];W[pn];B[qh]C[ Dongzi 6k*: q6 is asking b:" do u want the bottome or the right side? Dongzi 6k*: b says I want right side, so w... ] ;W[oq];B[or];W[nq];B[pp];W[op];B[nr];W[mq];B[nj];W[oj];B[jk];W[gi];B[nl] ;W[nm];B[nk];W[qj];B[rl]C[ Dongzi 6k*: b s8 making s10 and s6 miai ] ;W[pl];B[mm];W[mn];B[lm]C[ Dongzi 6k*: who's leading? Dongzi 6k*: it seems that black made some eye shape. Dongzi 6k*: but not enough yet Dongzi 6k*: territorially, black leads. Dongzi 6k*: but b center group not safe yet. Dongzi 6k*: one has to keep the pressure. Dongzi 6k*: before that, let's taking profit in sente. ] ;W[ro];B[rj]C[ rimas 9k*: good question :) ] ;W[rp];B[qr]C[ Dongzi 6k*: ok, let's go back to the main battle ] ;W[ln];B[nn];W[om];B[kn];W[lp];B[rq];W[km];B[jn];W[kl];B[ll];W[lk];B[ml] ;W[fp]C[ Dongzi 6k*: leanning attack ] ;B[il]C[ Dongzi 6k*: black says I know ur trick Dongzi 6k*: by b's ceding f3, now the left side looks like w territory, so w... ] ;W[bg];B[bd];W[eq]C[ Dongzi 6k*: b says not so easy. ] ;B[cq];W[gl];B[er];W[fr];B[dr];W[gq];B[bo];W[bn];B[co];W[cn]C[ Dongzi 6k*: who's leading now? :) rimas 9k*: white Dongzi 6k*: correct. rimas 9k*: good guess :) Dongzi 6k*: now it is close. ] ;B[lb]C[ Dongzi 6k*: big yose ] ;W[ao]C[ rimas 9k*: it's very messy ] ;B[br];W[aq];B[ar];W[qc];B[pb];W[pc];B[ob];W[qg];B[pg];W[ri];B[qi];W[sj] ;B[rk];W[rg];B[rh];W[re];B[qe];W[ph];B[si];W[oc];B[nb];W[li];B[mi];W[kj] ;B[kk];W[ni];B[mj];W[rd];B[rf];W[qb];B[rb];W[ra];B[sb];W[se];B[sc];W[sg] ;B[qf];W[nd];B[ne];W[of];B[sf];W[ma];B[sh];W[pa]C[ Dongzi 6k*: who wins? :) rimas 9k*: black Dongzi 6k*: guess again. :) rimas 9k*: there are moves which I don't understand Dongzi 6k*: there are many moves that I dont' understand.... Dongzi 6k*: but let's replay it trying to understand them. :) rimas 9k*: ok Dongzi 6k*: ' that's the game. Dongzi 6k*: w wins by resign rimas 9k*: thank you for the lesson! Dongzi 6k*: u r welcome. :) ianm 18k*: w ianm 18k*: excuse me.. did black resign because he realized he couldn't get w out of ur corner? Dongzi 6k*: black group is dead. ianm 18k*: m18&o18? ianm 18k*: &s18 - ianm 18k*: q16 still alive right? ianm 18k*: w Dongzi 6k*: yes, q16 still alive ianm 18k*: thanks ] ;) ---