(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by No Name Go Server] CoPyright[ This game was played on the No Name Go Server Permission to reproduce this game is given.] GN[eek-study(B) NNGS] EV[None] RE[W+3.5] PW[eek]WR[3d*] PB[study]BR[NR ] PC[NNGS New York USA: ra.york.cuny.edu 9696] DT[1996-06-26] SZ[19]TM[600]KM[0.5] HA[7]AB[pd][dp][dd][pp][dj][pj][jj] ;W[nc];B[jc];W[qf];B[oe];W[qc];B[pc]C[ eek 3d*: i'm fine thanks. how are you? ] ;W[qd];B[og];W[jq]C[ eek 3d*: i see. i'm from sweden, so it is early afternoon here ] ;B[kp]C[ eek 3d*: so far it look good eek 3d*: l4 is a bit irregular ] ;W[jp];B[ko]C[ eek 3d*: true! ] ;W[lr];B[mq];W[fq];B[fp];W[ep];B[eo]C[ study NR : suppose this move intended to break into centre? ] ;W[eq]C[ eek 3d*: if i play g4 i end up over concentrated eek 3d*: but e4 is an overplay :) study NR : w e4 unusual response eek 3d*: you might get good result by playeng e3 ] ;B[gp];W[do];B[en];W[cp];B[jo];W[dn]C[ study NR : yes corner big ] ;B[dm];W[em];B[cm]C[ eek 3d*: e6 is simple, but perhaps too generous ] ;W[el];B[co];W[dq]C[ study NR : tell me when my handicap coins are being used up pls :) study NR : is it around 4 handicaps now ? ] ;B[cn];W[dp]C[ eek 3d*: i've got territory, so it depends on your moyo skills :) eek 3d*: c5 c6 were well timed eek 3d*: later, i might ignore c6 ] ;B[gm]C[ study NR : if c6 ignored my left side and centre linked up eek 3d*: yes and at this point i can allow that eek 3d*: . can not i mean :) ] ;W[cf];B[dg];W[df];B[eg]C[ eek 3d*: d13 irregular but maybe good ] ;W[ef]C[ eek 3d*: well, it is certainly better for your corner :) ] ;B[fd];W[fg];B[fk]C[ eek 3d*: ah instead of say you mean? ] ;W[di];B[ei]C[ eek 3d*: sure I'll do that instead of say :) ] ;W[ej]C[ eek 3d*: i'm aiming for either capturing e13 or doing something with my cutting stones ] ;B[ek];W[eh]C[ eek 3d*: this is a good exchange for b ] ;B[fi]C[ eek 3d*: if i see any of your moaves that are clearly bad, i'll say so for the record eek 3d*: that shoudl have been say :( eek 3d*: if i see any bad moves, i'll report them in kibitz :) ] ;W[cj]C[ eek 3d*: f11 might be better to capture, due to this forcing move ] ;B[dk]C[ study NR : think I moved too quicker here ] ;W[ci];B[cd];W[ld]C[ study NR : maybe d12 better instead of connect eek 3d*: for w? ] ;B[je];W[lf]C[ eek 3d*: do you hear this? ] ;B[lh];W[nf]C[ study NR : later you can tell me what is strongest attack against rebellious w m16 stones :) eek 3d*: m12 is fine eek 3d*: no, a relaxed game like this is just what i want today ] ;B[of];W[mh];B[mg]C[ eek 3d*: i don't play at 100% eek 3d*: n13 very aggressive, n11 normal shape ] ;W[lg];B[ng];W[mi]C[ eek 3d*: not to say that it is bad :) study NR : might as well make use of thickness you made me have via o14 peek ] ;B[qh];W[rf];B[li];W[mk]C[ study NR : catcher you help to watch my connections study NR : while I charge blindly along :) ] ;B[mj];W[jf];B[ie];W[lj];B[nj];W[ki];B[lk]C[ study NR : did not see that ladder stopper :( ] ;W[kh];B[kj];W[li];B[ml];W[qn];B[qo]C[ study NR : another ladder stoper ] ;W[rj];B[pn];W[qm];B[pm];W[ql];B[nk]C[ study NR : where I do not know best move for b ] ;W[hq]C[ study NR : so I take to protect moyo eek 3d*: and i protect my bottom (b g3 was a good move) study NR : I seldom gather enough courage to play w in handi games study NR : ah, I wanted to go down before ] ;B[gq];W[gr]C[ pem 3k*: It seems b has played a bit slack in this game... ] ;B[hp]C[ catcher 6d : b has much enough ] ;W[hr]C[ study NR : what do you mean pls study NR : w can invade b right still? ] ;B[qb];W[rb]C[ study NR : always hard for w in beginning in high handicap games study NR : has to play winning moves study NR : yet has to avoid developing habit of overplays eek 3d*: i never avoids that! :) ] ;B[mc];W[lc];B[md];W[mb];B[nd];W[ec];B[ed]C[ study NR : this kind of invasion is hard on b, believe it or not study NR : this is because you are dealing with low k player ] ;W[gc];B[fc];W[fb]C[ study NR : how to foil w attempt to catch j15 area? ] ;B[gd];W[db]C[ eek 3d*: if only i knew! :) ] ;B[dc]C[ eek 3d*: i expected a black cut instead of g16 ] ;W[eb];B[gb];W[bc]C[ study NR : maybe b should block at c18 study NR : but harder to threaten w that way? ] ;B[bd];W[cb];B[ac];W[ab];B[ad];W[ga];B[hb];W[ip];B[io];W[fn];B[ho];W[fo]C[ study NR : see how much gift b is giving w :) ] ;B[ro];W[si];B[qk]C[ eek 3d*: hmm i should play r11 insteasd? ] ;W[rk];B[dl]C[ Kaiman 10k*: better to do a forcing move before D8 ] ;W[nr]C[ Kaiman 10k*: like N2 :-) ] ;B[nq];W[or]C[ eek 3d*: yes w can't cut at d8 anyway study NR : why can w not cut at d8? ] ;B[oq]C[ eek 3d*: b follows at c9? Kaiman 10k*: answer with C9 ] ;W[pr];B[mr]C[ Kaiman 10k*: I prefer q2 for black ] ;W[ms];B[kr];W[kq];B[lq]C[ Kaiman 10k*: now w eats away all the profit ] ;W[ls];B[qr]C[ Kaiman 10k*: black better closes corner ] ;W[ns]C[ study NR : trying hard, not good at tesuji you know eek 3d*: r2 is fine ] ;B[jr]C[ eek 3d*: does anyone else see my comments twice? ] ;W[iq]C[ Kaiman 10k*: not me eek 3d*: fine :) ] ;B[ps];W[qq];B[pq];W[rr];B[rs];W[rq]C[ study NR : did not intend kuo fight :( ] ;B[ks]C[ eek 3d*: sigh i play terrible ] ;W[qs];B[cc];W[bb];B[qr];W[hc]C[ Kaiman 10k*: u r in the right channel Erik :-) eek 3d*: i must have eaten soemthing BSE contamined :) ] ;B[ic];W[qs];B[le];W[ss]C[ study NR : you have won kuo :( study NR : what was b greatest kuo and should b continue for a while? ] ;B[ke];W[ii];B[fh];W[dh];B[gg];W[kf];B[bg];W[cg];B[bf];W[bh]C[ study NR : did b had a better threat than m15? Kaiman 10k*: I just would have killed the corner as black ] ;B[ig];W[jg];B[ih]C[ study NR : no chance to kill corner, Kaiman ] ;W[pb]C[ study NR : not definitely sure I'll get 2 eyes with d16 group eek 3d*: f19 with followup b19 is a ko threat catcher 6d : right ] ;B[ob];W[qa];B[nb];W[ji];B[ij]C[ study NR : glad I took n9 stone now :) ] ;W[hi];B[hj]C[ study NR : w is quite happy w forcing moves :) ] ;W[pl]C[ study NR : poor judgement by b in these yose(?) games give w back much points study NR : shout like taking my f5 stones ] ;B[ol];W[bp];B[bk]C[ catcher 6d : w wins now ] ;W[gf]C[ eek 3d*: no i may still blow it! :) ] ;B[bo]C[ study NR : w wins just now, or way back? ] ;W[gi]C[ study NR : I can never tell which is winning move in game :( ] ;B[gh];W[ha]C[ Kaiman 10k*: B4 was one eek 3d*: i should have played b6 instead of g14, i think ] ;B[ib];W[gj];B[gk];W[fj];B[if];W[ao];B[an];W[ap];B[bj];W[bi];B[qg];W[rn] ;B[sh];W[rh];B[rg];W[sg]C[ study NR : stupid move :) eek 3d*: i figured you had something like that on your mind, eek 3d*: when you played r13 ] ;B[qe];W[re];B[pe];W[gn];B[hn];W[ck];B[bl];W[mf];B[nh];W[fm];B[qi];W[gl]C[ study NR : you got my 4 point move at n14 :( ] ;B[hm];W[fl];B[hl]C[ eek 3d*: sorry about that :) ] ;W[pk];B[qj];W[ri];B[ge];W[hf]C[ eek 3d*: your endgame isn't bad ] ;B[ia];W[fa];B[oa];W[he];B[hd];W[ce];B[be];W[sn];B[so];W[ok];B[oj];W[ni] ;B[oi];W[pf];B[sq];W[sr];B[sp];W[pg];B[pa];W[ph];B[qb];W[ra];B[pb]C[ study NR : losing more :( ] ;W[aj];B[ak]C[ eek 3d*: i will have to watch out ] ;W[ai];B[cl];W[ag];B[af];W[qp];B[po];W[ah];B[oh];W[rc];B[ee];W[ff];B[me]C[ eek 3d*: this is it? ] ;W[tt]C[ study NR : study would like to thank eek (3d) for playing w lowly ks :) ] ;B[tt]C[ eek 3d*: thanks study, my pleasure eek 3d*: sorry i played so lousy eek 3d*: but your endgame was good ] ;) ---