(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by No Name Go Server] CoPyright[ This game was played on the No Name Go Server Permission to reproduce this game is given.] GN[Tincek-Koko(B) NNGS] EV[None] RE[W+26.5] PW[Tincek]WR[12k ] PB[Koko]BR[8k ] PC[NNGS New York USA: ra.york.cuny.edu 9696] DT[1996-08-03] SZ[19]TM[6000]KM[0.5] ;B[dp];W[pd];B[pp];W[dd];B[gp];W[pj];B[dj];W[cg];B[dg];W[df];B[eg];W[ef] ;B[fg];W[gg];B[gf];W[ff];B[gh];W[hg];B[hh];W[hf];B[ge];W[he];B[ch];W[bg] ;B[bh];W[ih];B[ii];W[og];B[jh];W[ig];B[jg];W[jf];B[kf];W[je];B[ke];W[kd] ;B[ld];W[le];B[me];W[lf];B[kg];W[md];B[lc];W[mf];B[ne];W[nd];B[pk];W[ji] ;B[ki];W[jj];B[ij];W[lg];B[kh];W[kj];B[li];W[lj];B[mi];W[ni];B[mj];W[mk] ;B[nj];W[nk];B[nh];W[oi];B[nf];W[ng];B[jd];W[kc]C[ totoro 3k : j15 ] ;B[kb];W[jc];B[id]C[ DanielH 11k : ; g16? totoro 3k : but then b gets j17 and saves everything totoro 3k : but then again it's probably wise for w to give up something small ] ;W[lb]C[ totoro 3k : firt j17 then g16 for b? DanielH 11k : ; thats what I was thinking cut W in two ] ;B[hd]C[ totoro 3k : not good i think totoro 3k : w g16 DanielH 11k : ; lost a move ] ;W[gd];B[fe]C[ totoro 3k : b still only has one sure eye ... and i think in gote? ] ;W[fd]C[ totoro 3k : f15 bad totoro 3k : loss of point and aji DanielH 11k : ; he has to j15 totoro 3k : still gote for the eye DanielH 11k : ; yes ] ;B[oj]C[ totoro 3k : w closes off at k18 and tough for b to get 2nd eye totoro 3k : that's why f15 was bad totoro 3k : now g16 not sente DanielH 11k : ; i see now ] ;W[ee];B[ok]C[ totoro 3k : before b had j17 j18 g17 as sente, ] ;W[mh];B[pi]C[ totoro 3k : i think the 3 b stones at f15 was small ] ;W[oh];B[qj];W[ph]C[ totoro 3k : better move for w was probably q11 ... solidify terr and still put pressure on b ] ;B[qi]C[ totoro 3k : now b alive and can attack l10 stones totoro 3k : r11 bad ] ;W[qh]C[ totoro 3k : should be used at maybe l8? totoro 3k : and b probably makes terr on right totoro 3k : r12 bad as well :-) totoro 3k : l8 is vital spot for both totoro 3k : if b attacks w correctly probably makes terr on both left and right DanielH 11k : ; what after B L8 ] ;B[mc];W[mb]C[ totoro 3k : w probably tries j9, b h10, h9 g10 ] ;B[nc]C[ totoro 3k : thing is l8 is a vital spot totoro 3k : b positions to cut at m9 ] ;W[od]C[ totoro 3k : and also proverb play one jump in 3 stone formation totoro 3k : b is wasting ko threats up top totoro 3k : oops sorry b ok up top totoro 3k : still center looks bigger to me totoro 3k : k18 ] ;B[jk];W[lp];B[lk]C[ DanielH 11k : ;?? ] ;W[ll];B[kk]C[ totoro 3k : interesting as always :-) ] ;W[mm]C[ DanielH 11k : ; W will have to invade left totoro 3k : still has to save is stones first... ] ;B[nl];W[ml];B[nm];W[nn];B[on];W[om];B[ol];W[pm]C[ totoro 3k : w not strong enough don't think ] ;B[oo];W[no];B[np];W[mp];B[mo];W[mn]C[ DanielH 11k : B M6 aim for K8 ] ;B[lo];W[ko];B[jo];W[nq];B[op];W[oq];B[pq];W[pr]C[ DanielH 11k : tell totoro got to go, thanks for answering my questions ] ;B[kl];W[kn];B[km];W[jn];B[iq];W[jp];B[io];W[ip];B[hp];W[in];B[hn];W[ho] ;B[go];W[io];B[hm];W[gn];B[im];W[fn];B[fp];W[co];B[cp];W[dn];B[cm];W[bn] ;B[eo];W[en];B[dh];W[cl];B[dl];W[bl];B[dm];W[bm];B[bp];W[bo];B[bk];W[dk] ;B[ek];W[ck];B[bj];W[el];B[em];W[fl];B[fm];W[gm];B[gl];W[cn];B[fk];W[jm] ;B[il];W[cj];B[ci];W[hq];B[lh];W[mg];B[lm];W[ln];B[gq];W[ej];B[di];W[gk] ;B[fj];W[hl];B[hk];W[gl];B[gj];W[jl];B[ik];W[hr];B[gr];W[gs];B[fs];W[hs] ;B[fr];W[ir];B[em];W[dm];B[qr];W[or];B[ps];W[os];B[qq];W[ri];B[rj];W[rh] ;B[qm];W[ah];B[ie];W[if];B[jb];W[ic];B[hc];W[gc];B[ib];W[oc];B[gb];W[nb] ;B[la];W[ma];B[ka];W[fb];B[jc];W[ga];B[ob];W[pb];B[na];W[hb];B[pa];W[qa] ;B[oa];W[qb];B[ge];W[gf];B[ai];W[ag];B[al];W[am];B[ak];W[ia];B[ja];W[ha] ;B[ao];W[an];B[ap];W[do];B[qs];W[sj];B[sk];W[si];B[rk];W[fo];B[ep];W[jq] ;B[bf];W[cf];B[be];W[bd];B[bc];W[cc];B[ad];W[cd];B[bb];W[cb];B[ba];W[af] ;B[mb];W[tt];B[tt]C[ Tincek 12k : we type done Tincek 12k : but first both of us must pass Tincek 12k : did you select pass in the menu-command? Tincek 12k : then there must be something wrong, let's count liberties and dead stones... Tincek 12k : and agree about who won. Then the one who lost type resign... Tincek 12k : if that is ok for you Tincek 12k : it's ok Tincek 12k : i think that's all if you agree we can type done now Tincek 12k : i don't know what happened before, but i still saw your time running ] ;) ---